Conduit Trust vs. Custom Beneficiary Designation

I have not seen this issue raised before.

I went to an initial consultation with an estate planning attorney to see about a conduit trust for my IRA (I had seen a statement that the average inherited IRA is depleted in 17 months).

He told me that he does not believe in conduit trusts for IRAs. He said that the cost to setup, administer, tax returns, etc… are not worth it when all you are doing is pass the RMDs through to the beneficiaries.

Instead he wants to do a custom beneficiary designation with and I quote “trust-like” language. He said that there are private letter rulings supporting your right to restrict the distributions by your beneficiaries. Also, he said that with proper (and I don’t remember the terminology) language protecting the custodian, he has had them accepted by most major custodians.

Now, I am not one to usually question someone who suggests ways of saving me money, but what do the experts think?

1. PLRs are individual decisions, but I guess a lot of things are done based on their precedence. How safe is this?
2. IRS rulings in general are only a ruling on keeping the tax status of the accounts with the actions your are taking correct?
3. So my basic question has to do with enforceability of this. Would it stand up?

I guess my gut feeling is that even if this can ultimately be successfully challenged it is somewhat like a standard boilerplate liability disclaimer. Even if it could be challenged, most people don’t. At least my beneficiaries will clearly know my desires and somewhat likely to follow them.

Besides it does seems like a whole lot less hassle all the way around. Any thoughts???



Bruce Steiner will likely respond further to this. However, have you considered the following? This might involve a fee higher than a customized beneficiary designation, but would be far less than drafting a trust, particularly if the IRA is the only asset under consideration to fund the trust.

http://advisor.morningstar.com/articles/article.asp?docId=12454

The trusteed trust would probably involve a different set of IRA custodians than those who might accept a customized wording. So you would then have to factor in the desirability of the custodian while you are alive vrs the benefits of beneficiary control.

Your lawyer probably got it right. I haven’t yet had a case where a conduit trust made any sense. Having a discretionary trust as the beneficiary of an IRA is a bit of work the first time the lawyer does one, but after a while it’s not that much extra work. The key (see PLRs 200228025 and 200235038) is to make sure that none of the accumulated IRA distributions can ever go to anyone older than the beneficiary whose life you’re using to determine the stretchout.

The “trusteed IRA” is an interesting concept, but it’s not very flexible, and I haven’t had a case where it made any sense.

I wrote an article on trusts as beneficiaries of retirement benefits, which appeared in the March 2004 issue of the BNA Tax Management Estates, Gifts & Trusts Journal, which discusses this in more detail: http://www.kkwc.com/docs/AR20041209132954.pdf

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