ESOP within a 401K plan

My daughter has been advised to separate the ESOP portion of her 401 K from the rest of the 401K when she rolls it over to an IRA. I have been reading forum topics and would like to be sure I have understood it. Here are the facts as I understand them. Can someone confirm or correct these.

A. Laid off from her company in March 2013.
B. 56 years old at that time
C. 401K includes ESOP shares that have appreciated. Current value about 100K. I do not have a cost value at this time.
D. Rollover of the 401 K is about to take place, and she has been advised to place the ESOP shares in a non-IRA brokerage account.
E. I understand she will need to pay the taxes on the original cost of the shares as ordinary income. She has started a new job, so the original cost will become additional ordinary income on her 2014 tax return.
F. Since she was older than 55 when she was laid off there will be no 10% penalty. Does the fact that she is again employed change this or negate the use of a NUA.
G. How long must she hold the shares so she will then pay Long Term Taxes on these upon selling them instead of Short Term?
H. If for any reason (provisions in the 401K, brokerage house rules) the shares would need to be sold and repurchased in kind, would this negate the ability to take advantage of the NUA.

Greatly appreciate any input. Want to be sure she is doing it right.



  • C) She needs to find out the cost basis. NUA is of questionable benefit when the cost basis exceeds 30% unless she needs the funds very soon to pay living or emergency needs and will therefore sell the shares right away.
  • D) Good, since all plans of the employer must be distributed to have a qualified LSD for NUA purposes.
  • E) Correct
  • F) There is no penalty under the age 55 separation from service and new employment does not affect this unless re employed by combinable ownership with the former employer.
  • G) No holding period for the original NUA at time of distribution. 1 year and 1 day for additional gains after the distribution.
  • H) Usually not, but she needs to get this confirmed by the plan administrator. Often, the shares must be sold back to the plan but that does not affect NUA if the sale is done after distribution.
  • In summary, she needs to determine the taxable cost basis for the shares, make sure all plans of a similar type (eg profit sharing) are distributed as well, and understand the affects of any buyback requirement. If she also made after tax contributions to the plan, she should determine how that basis will be applied to the assets being distributed as part of the LSD. The LSD request should get underway early enough in 2014 so that there is no question of completing it before year end. Usually that means no later than October to submit distribution papers. If there is other employer shares outside the ESOP, they should also be eligible for NUA.

 



Thank you so much for the quick response



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