Contingent Beneficiary – Trust fbo kids

I recently read “theslottreport.com/2014/07/ruling-to-remember-what-not-to-do-when”, which caused me to call my IRA custodian to see how they would interpret my contingent beneficiary designation as suggested by my attorney and I did not like their comment.

The critical sentence is, “…shall be distributed to the Trustee of the J. Doe Trust UTA dated 11/8/2010, as it may be amended prior to my death, thereafter to be held by such Trustee as part of the Trust for J. Doe Jr. pursuant to the provisions of such Trust agreement.”

The custodian interprets this to be a 100% distribution and fully taxable the year of distribution.

The Trust document says: “Trust Distributions from Retirement Accounts: If the Trust is the beneficiary of any IRA that requires MRD’s to J. Doe Jr., then during each calendar year, any required MRD (pursuant to Section 401(a)(9) if the IRS code) shall be distributed to J. Doe Jr. prior to the end of such year. It is the Grantors specific intent that the Trust for J. Doe Jr. be treated as a “conduit trust” for federal income tax purposes, and therefore qualify as a designated beneficiary pursuant to the IRS code mentioned.”

My thought after going through this is the trust is probably written OK, but that the beneficiary designation is ambiguous at best regarding the intent to stretch the distributions.

Two questions:
1. Do you agree with how the custodian interpreted the beneficiary designation?

2. If the beneficiary designation ambiguity is resolved do you believe the Trust document accomplishes the intent of stretching the IRA?

Thanks!



  1. Hard to agree or disagree since the contingent beneficiary designation is ambiguous with respect to whether the distribution is a lump sum or not. Removal of the first 4 words would probably be enough, but you should get input from the IRA custodian and convey that to the drafting trust attorney.
  2. Yes, it should stretch the IRA, but the beneficiary of the trust can also get the life expectancy stretch (meets qualification requirements) without a conduit trust as long as no one older than the beneficiary can inherit some of the IRA without being strictly a successor beneficiary.  


Conduit trusts rarely make sense.  They force out all of the IRA distributions, throwing them into the beneficiary’s estate, and exposing them to the beneficiary’s creditors and spouses.  Why not make the trust discretionary, so the trustees can distribute as much or as little as they think best from time to time.  See my article on this in the March 2004 issue of BNA Tax Management’s Estates, Gifts & Trusts Journal:  http://www.kkwc.com/docs/AR20041209132954.pdfMight the custodian prefer “payable” rather than “distributed”?



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