Back Door Roth and pro-rata rule with other pre-tax IRA’s

I had a client who did back-door Roth’s in 2023. He has a Simple IRA and a SEP IRA account, but no ‘plain’ pre-tax IRA’s. Will either the Simple or SEP trigger the ‘pro-rata’ rule and create any additional tax issues or are SEP and Simple exempt from triggering those?

Thank you,

Craig



They are not exempt. Only Roth IRAs and inherited IRAs are exempt. The 2023 year end balance of both the SIMPLE and SEP IRA must be shown on line 6 of Form 8606, which will make the amount of the conversion mostly taxable.

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