529 to Roth Rollover – 15 Year Rule

I understand that the 529 account has to be open for at least 15 years to be able to qualify to do a rollover to a Roth account for the beneficiary of the 529 account.  My question is, does it have to be with the same carrier for 15 years, or is it 15 years total?  For example, let’s say a client originally had a 529 account with American Funds for the beneficiary, but later transferred the account to Tomorrow’s Scholar.  Does the time at American Funds count towards the 15 years?



This is one of a few questions regarding Sec 126 of Secure 2.0 that the IRS has not yet addressed, and even if the 529 administrator was willing to execute the rollover, it would be risky to proceed before the IRS issues clear guidance. There are also no clear instructions addressing the reversal of a disallowed transfer.

Thank you!

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