Returning RMD taken in 2020 per IRS notice 2020-51
#1 Calling it an indirect rollover, my IRA provider said I could return the net or gross amount of my 2020 RMD which I took in Jan 2020. The difference between net and gross is the state and federal taxes I had withheld. If I return the net amount and not the gross, I assume the difference between the two would be considered a distribution for tax purposes. Is that correct?
#2 My wife also took her RMD this year with another IRA provider. If she returns her RMD, and I do too, would that be considered two rollovers in the same tax year?
Thanks
Permalink Submitted by David Mertz on Fri, 2020-07-10 18:00
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Fri, 2020-07-10 18:22
Note: DMx meant to type August 31, 2020 in response to Q 1.
Permalink Submitted by David Mertz on Fri, 2020-07-10 18:52
Thanks, I’ve correct that.
Permalink Submitted by Alice Zab on Fri, 2020-07-10 20:51
I have a Solo 401K from which 2020 RMD was taken in February 2020. Previous years, 1099R/1096 paper form (with carbon copies) is ordered from IRS https://www.irs.gov/businesses/online-ordering-for-information-returns-and-employer-returns to report the yyyy RMD. The original page of the 1099R/1096 is mailed coming January. Usually, the accountant calculates the 401K RMD 1099R Fed W/H (not taken when RMD was taken) and adds it into the quarterly Estimated taxes.This year, IRS Notice 2020-51 suspended the 2020 RMD requirement, allowing rollback into 401K by August 31, 2020 to accommodate taxpayers who have taken the RMD early and missed the 60 day period.Question: When I rollback the 2020 401K RMD, what IRS forms are required?(a) Does the February 2020 RMD need to be reported in 2020 1099R/1096 anyway?(b) Additionally, do I need to file IRS paper form 5498 (due August 31, 2020) to indicate the RMD solo 401K rollback? I read that the form 5498 is for IRA’s only. If so, what IRS form is required to report to IRS the solo 401K RMD rollback?(c) The IRS is not processing any paper form orders during the pandemic, so all paper forms required may not be delivered to meet reporting deadlines … How to handle this situation? Please advise. Thanks in advance
Permalink Submitted by Alice Zab on Fri, 2020-07-10 20:51
I have a Solo 401K from which 2020 RMD was taken in February 2020. Previous years, 1099R/1096 paper form (with carbon copies) is ordered from IRS https://www.irs.gov/businesses/online-ordering-for-information-returns-and-employer-returns to report the yyyy RMD. The original page of the 1099R/1096 is mailed coming January. Usually, the accountant calculates the 401K RMD 1099R Fed W/H (not taken when RMD was taken) and adds it into the quarterly Estimated taxes.This year, IRS Notice 2020-51 suspended the 2020 RMD requirement, allowing rollback into 401K by August 31, 2020 to accommodate taxpayers who have taken the RMD early and missed the 60 day period.Question: When I rollback the 2020 401K RMD, what IRS forms are required?(a) Does the February 2020 RMD need to be reported in 2020 1099R/1096 anyway?(b) Additionally, do I need to file IRS paper form 5498 (due August 31, 2020) to indicate the RMD solo 401K rollback? I read that the form 5498 is for IRA’s only. If so, what IRS form is required to report to IRS the solo 401K RMD rollback?(c) The IRS is not processing any paper form orders during the pandemic, so all paper forms required may not be delivered to meet reporting deadlines … How to handle this situation? Please advise. Thanks in advance
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Fri, 2020-07-10 22:50
Permalink Submitted by Alice Zab on Tue, 2020-07-14 15:44
Thank you, Alan. Why does the RMD need to be reported on the 1099r since RMD will be rolled back (returned) as allowed by the Cares Act? Does the rollback also required 1099r? (1) Full RMD 1099r ($0 w/h taxes paid): What boxes must be filled?(2) Full RMD ‘rollback’ 1099r: What boxes must be filled?On the 1040, box 4d reports amount $0 because of the 1099r (1) and (2)?Again, thank you!
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Tue, 2020-07-14 16:51
Permalink Submitted by Alice Zab on Wed, 2020-08-19 14:35
Thank you, Alan. Regarding you comment (bullet 2), what is the proper distribution code for Box 7?
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Wed, 2020-08-19 14:53
Code 7 in Box 7. But if the solo K distribution was from a designated Roth balance, then show Code B.