Trust is beneficiary of IRA for Spouse
I have a client who recently passed away. While living he let a trust mill come in and convince him he needed to put everything into his trust which included naming the trust as beneficiary of his IRA’s. Its a simple Family Trust that does not have any provisions of how his surviving spouse takes distributions from the accounts. After speaking with several others I am just as confused now as I was in the beginning.
My questions are
1) How can we avoid paying taxes on the full amount now?
2) Ive heard some custodians allow the trust to be bypassed if the beneficiary of the trust is the spouse and will allow her to rollover the proceeds in her name?
3) More questions will follow I’m sure.
Thank you
Permalink Submitted by Ben Meyer on Fri, 2015-11-06 14:06
1) The trust is a valid trust under state law;
2) The trust is irrevocable or will, by its terms, become irrevocable upon the death of the IRA owner;
3) The beneficiaries of the trust are identifiable (this can become a complex consideration); and
4) A copy of the trust documents, or the applicable portions, are provided to the IRA custodian by October 31 of the year immediately following the year in which the IRA owner died.
http://www.kitces.com/blog/qualifying-a-see-through-trust-as-an-ira-designated-beneficiary-conduit-or-accumulation/
“Designating A Trust As Retirement Beneficiary”, http://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/04/081804.asp
Permalink Submitted by Bruce Steiner on Sun, 2015-11-08 00:27
With enough disclaimers it’s often possible to get the IRA to the spouse so the spouse can then roll it over. See my articles on this subject: http://kkwc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IRA-Rollovers-Making-this-option-possible.pdf#toolbar=1&navpanes=0&nameddest=self&page=1&view=FitH,0&zoom=80,0,0 http://kkwc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/AR20050125164755.pdf#toolbar=1&navpanes=0&nameddest=self&page=1&view=FitH,0&zoom=80,0,0