401-k death of owner no beneficiary
Client dies with 401-k balance excess 300K. no spouse. no beneficiary named in 401-k document. 2 daughters named as beneficiaries in will. what options allowed?
Client dies with 401-k balance excess 300K. no spouse. no beneficiary named in 401-k document. 2 daughters named as beneficiaries in will. what options allowed?
Permalink Submitted by Ben Meyer on Tue, 2016-05-31 15:51
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Tue, 2016-05-31 16:51
In addition to Benn’s comments, the following is copied from a Natalie Choate article addressing the restrictions that apply to an estate beneficiary of a 401k plan vs. an estate beneficiary of an IRA:
Permalink Submitted by [email protected] on Tue, 2016-05-31 19:43
I have a new client who just found out he is the beneficiary on 2 IRA’s and 2 Roth IRA’s from an ex girlfriend. She passed away in 2013. He was just notified this year that he is the bene. on these accounts. What options should he consider taking regarding the missed distributions since no distributions, as far as he knows, have been taken for 2013(year of death), 2014 and 2015. Additonal facts she was under 701/2 he will be 71 in July.
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Wed, 2016-06-01 00:07
He needs to determine the year end amounts for 2013, 2014 and 2015 in order to know the RMDs for each year. There is no year of death RMD for 2013 since she passed prior to her RBD. He then needs to make up the late RMDs and file Form 5329 for 2014 and 2015 and indicate the reason for the late RMDs. To determine the late RMDs he needs to confirm that he was the sole beneficiary on each account and was named on the accounts rather than inheriting through her estate, The Roth RMDs are almost surely tax free, and the TIRA RMDs are probably 100% taxable unless he can determine that he inherited basis from her final 8606.
Permalink Submitted by Edward Janecek on Fri, 2017-04-21 14:02
Permalink Submitted by Ben Meyer on Fri, 2017-04-21 18:11
Yes, this was also clarified in a different thread. But another approach can often be taken for distributions from an inherited 401(k) that does not offer a stretch to a non-spouse beneficiary. Many 401(k) plans have a plan provision that requires the account to be completely distributed within five years of the date of death, rather than requiring a single lump sum distribution. If the plan also allows multiple distributions during the five year period, the beneficiary would at least be able to obtain a five year stretch. This would prevent a large surge of income to the beneficiary by spreading it over five years. If the beneficiary is an estate, it would need to be kept open during this period.