ERISA plan RMD deferral

I just read an Ed Slott article and came across something I didn’t know and thought I’d check it here.

Mike works for a small employer in the year he attains age 70 1/2, where he has $1.6Million in a qualified profit sharing plan. This plan allows Mike to defer his RMD if he continues to work there and does not hold at least 5% of the company’s stock. Currently Mike holds 4% of the company’s stock in his PS plan. At age 75, Mike is still working there but that year, with his continued buying of company stock, he reaches >5% ownership in the company stock.

Question: can he continue to defer his RMD?

If I’m reading Ed’s article correctly, he can, as the 5% determination occurs only in the year one attains age 70 1/2.

Question #2: The ‘still working’ rule only requires the employee be ‘working’ for the employer on 12/31 of that year, but has no minimum on working hours or amount of salary. That is, if the employee ‘retirees’ or ‘separates from service’ on Dec. 30, then that would NOT count as a ‘still working’ year…correct?

Thanks

BruceM



  1. Yes, deferral continues since Mike will not become subject to RMDs if he becomes a greater than 5% owner later on per IRS Reg 1.401(a)(9)-2 QA 2c. 5% ownership is only measured at the end of year 70.5.
  2. Not sure of this one. Employee retirement is subject to how the employer keeps their books, and generally would occur on the last day of active employment rather than the first day after active employment ended. Payment for unused vacation or any form of paid time off would not extend the date of retirement. Accordingly, I think that if the last day is 12/31 or earlier the employee would be deemed “retired” in that year even though they were on the payroll on 12/31. There could well be some IRS guidance on this question, but am not aware of it.

Just learned another tidbit on IRAs :-)Thanks Alan

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