Roth TSP (401k) was automatically distributed, can it function as a 60 day rollover?

I have a 53-year-old client who retired this past year as an air traffic controller for the federal government. She decided to roll over her TSP (the fed version of a 401k) to an IRA.

The TSP also had a balance in the Roth account. The TSP sent a check to her in her name for the proceeds of the Roth (about $70,000), to her home about 30 days after the Traditional portion was sent to the new custodian. She never made a distribution request nor gave instructions on where to send the Roth proceeds – they just sent it to her.

As the Roth check was made out to her, instead of the new account custodian, they withheld 20% of the gain in the contract as an early distribution, and she was 2 months shy of 5 years in the Roth account (which was only $1300), but coded all of the gain ($6500) as taxable on the 1099-R as the account was not over 5 years old. We deposited the received funds into a Roth at that point and coded as a 60-day rollover. When the check was sent to her, neither she nor we were notified of the withholding of 20% of the account’s gain. We discovered this when she received her 1099 recently.

My question is,

1. Could she now (7 months later, and in a new tax year) contribute the 20% (about $1300) that was withheld from her Roth distribution, and avoid the 10% premature distribution penalty, and how do we recode the distribution as a rollover for the basis that was transferred into a Roth? In other words, how do we prepare the paper trail in the event of an audit?

2. Is it too late to contribute the $1300 as we are well past the 60-day rollover windows from when those funds were withheld?

I’d appreciate any insight you have to offer.

Kind regards,

Thom



  1. She cannot complete the rollover now. It had to be done within 60 days of receipt, however see point 2 below. However, with a Roth 401k distribution that is partially rolled over, the earnings amount is deemed rolled over first. As such there will not be a taxable amount for this rollover showing on line 16b of Form 1040, and there will not be any penalty because the 10% only applies to the taxable amount of a distribution.
  2. She may be able to do a “self certified” late rollover based on plan error, although the error is not so much what they did as lack of communication. It’s a gray area, so may not be worth pursuing. Read the following bulletin and determine if this is worth the effort to complete the rollover by contributing another 1300 as a rollover contribution to the Roth IRA.
  3. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-16-47.pdf

Alan,Thanks for the detailed and referenced response. Exactly what I was looking for. Thom Hall

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