RMD’s

Please see below as I can’t find the response from Alan within the Forum. Their accountant is retired and I need a suggestion on the wording of the letter to request abatement/release of the 50% penalties. Also having a tough time finding previous years of form 5329. All the IRS site will give me is instructions. Thank you all for your help and Alan if you see this again I know you will have ideas.

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Client has a retirement plan at Vanguard, retired and no longer contributing. Called me and asked why he was getting RMD notices from Vanguard? We were unaware he had any assets at Vanguard. Obtained year-end statements from 2013 – 2017 and confirmed RMD’s were not taken. He and his wife have IRA’s with Fidelity and we have faithfully distributed RMD’s since they turned 70 1/2. The account worth is $120k and the 50% penalties will eat them alive. These clients are the best and I want to do anything to help them. Will the fact that RMD’s were taken on other IRA’s help their case? Thanks for any suggestions.

Submitted by Alan-iracritic@… on Thu, 2018-02-22 12:42

The IRS almost always waives the penalty if the taxpayer makes up the late RMDs and files Form 5329 requesting the penalty be waived. Client would need to file a 5329 for all 5 years using the correct edition, but the same explanation can go with all 5. They can be filed without a 1040X. If client took more than the RMD from any of the Fidelity IRAs, the excess would count toward the total RMD for each year, and if client wanted to take the makeup distribution from the Fidelity IRAs, he could. So first verify that client is actually short in total, and if so calculate the late RMD for each year, then request that amount to be distributed. Client will be taxed on the makeup RMD this year.



  • The prior year forms don’t come up in order. Use the link below and enter each year in the blank as follows: Form 5329 (2013), Form 5329 (2014) etc. For the instructions, you only need one year and on the last page the completing instructions are under the “Waiver of Tax” paragraph.
  • https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs-prior-search?search=form+5329+%282013%29&=Search
  • Sample note for “reasonable cause” to attach to each 5329  – “It has come to my attention that I should have been taking RMDs from my IRA at Vanguard, which I neglected to do. I have now received the total RMDs for 2013-2017 from this IRA in the amounts stated on these 5329 forms. I am requesting a waiver of the 50% penalty for each of these years, and will be sure to take all future RMDs on time. Thank you.”

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