NUA Stock Sale Basis
I have never had to address an NUA before. Unfortunately, Pershing LLC did not report any basis on the stock when reporting to the IRS with their 2019 and 2020 1099-B and did not send one to the taxpayer. Looking for the basis if any on 1099s.
I do have the 2019 1099-R when the NUA treatment took place, and the brokerage statements that shows the transfer in and the two sales of the stock the bring the number of company shares held to zero.
2019 1099-B (NUA Event 10/10/2019)
Box 1 162,389.64
Box 2 64,960.98
Box 6 97,428.66
Shares 977
NUA/Share $99.72 (97,428.66/977)
Sale 1 11/22/2019 (this transaction was also reported on a 1099-B by Pershing to the IRS without a cost basis, but the taxpayer did not receive or report the income and the IRS did not send discrepancy notice)
488 Shares sold at 179.17/Share is $87,434.96
Sale 2 1/29/2020
489 Shares sold at $174.93 (This calculates to $85,540.77 though Pershing reported proceeds of $85,082)
What should have been reported on the 1099-B’s for Proceeds and Cost Basis?
Thank You.
Permalink Submitted by David Mertz on Wed, 2023-12-27 19:42
Permalink Submitted by Gene Turley on Tue, 2024-01-09 20:40
DMx, Yes a 1099-R. You calculated the basis for the shares sold in sale 1 and sale 2 as $66.49 (1099-R box 2 of $64,960.98 / 977 shares) in your reply. It is like the NUA created a step-up in basis in those shares. Can I think of it that way?Just thinking, since these shares were sold just 4 months after the NUA event, would they be taxed as short-term gain – ordinary income?
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Wed, 2023-12-27 20:42
Permalink Submitted by David Mertz on Tue, 2024-01-09 21:17
I don’t know what you are seeing as a step-up in basis. The basis of the NUA shares upon distribution is the price at which the shares were purchased or added within the retirement account, which is the same as the taxable amount of the distribution. Without NUA treatment the cost basis of the shares outside the retirement account would become the entire gross amount of the distribution, but the entire gross amount of the distribution also would be taxable as ordinary income.
Permalink Submitted by Gene Turley on Wed, 2024-01-10 21:13
Thank you for your patience and answering. So what the NUA does is that it treats stock put into the retirement as ordinary income with the taxable amount being the share price at the time of the shares going into the 401K account (I guess it is the average price of the shares, in my scenario $66). Then any gain beyond that price is treated as capital gains possibly taxed at 15%. Since these shares were sold within 4 months of the NUA event aren’t the gains treated as ordinary income as well, making the NUA strategy ineffective?
Permalink Submitted by David Mertz on Wed, 2024-01-10 21:20
The NUA distributed from the 401(k) is taxable as long-term capital gains regardless of how long the shares are held outside the 401(k). The only part that is taxable at short-term capital gains rates (ordinary income rates) is the gains outside the 401(k), and only because the shares were not held outside the 401(k) for at least a year.
Permalink Submitted by Alan - IRA critic on Wed, 2024-01-10 21:23